Proper Channel for PSU to UPSC


About Author 

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Author has worked with NHPC Ltd.(Central PSU) for more than 3 years and while working cleared UPSC ESE three times consecutively in 2012, 2013 and 2014. Author has received awards from the Chief Minister of UP twice for securing Merit Positions in High-School and Intermediate Examinations of UP Board and also honored by Department of Science/ UP for securing highest marks in Science in High-School Examination. Author also bagged the Silver Medal of the University in B. Tech. Author has a deep interest in Hindi Literature and also received the title of “Manas Mandal Sudharak” from Manas Samiti Kanpur.


 

I have found many candidates preparing for exams conducted by UPSC while working with PSU or Some other government organization. Some of the candidates are always concerned for the transfer of service agreement bond, technical resignation, proper channel and resignation procedure etc.

I have appeared in UPSC ESE consecutively three times starting from 2011 to 2014 along with working in NHPC Ltd. (Miniratna Company). I got selected with AIR-144, 073, 157 in ESE-2012, 2013 and 2014 respectively. Since I was working with a PSU, I always applied for the exam duly intimating my parent organization at each stage of the selection procedure. I have also found that many candidates do not intimate to their parent department while applying for any Competitive exams due to many reasons.

Let us understand the consequences if you will not intimate your parent organization:

  • Since UPSC does not ask for any experience certificate and No Objection Certificate for appearing in ESE, you can hide the fact without indicating in DAF (Detailed Application Form) and without intimating your current department, but it may cause trouble in future because these details will always be in record. Suppose you want to apply for any other post through Deputation, you cannot show your experience of previous job because you have not mentioned it in DAF while applying.
  • If while applying for UPSC ESE, you have not intimated to your current organization. You cannot give resignation indicating that you are going to join Some Central Govt. department allocated through UPSC ESE, but you have to give resignation on personal ground.
  • If you are under any Service Bond Obligation and your bond period is not completed in the current organization, you have to pay the currency of the bond and resignation must be on personal ground.
  • If your current organization is PSU, it must be having EPF (Employee Provident Fund) Scheme, and for State Government/Central Government the Scheme is NPS (New Pension Scheme). If you are coming from PSU, you have to withdraw the amount and If you are coming from State Government/Central Government department you can transfer your NPS account, without withdrawing your money, But for the transfer of account your resignation must be through proper channel.
  • If you are appointed through the ESE, you will get pay-protection and balance leave transferred, only if your earlier employer was a State Government/Central Government organization and resignation is through proper channel. In case of PSU, no provision of pay-protection is there.
  • In the rarest of the rare case, you may be in trouble if your current organization informs to UPSC that you have not applied through proper channel without intimating them. It may result into cancellation of candidature and a case may also be registered under Section-420 of IPC.

Proper Channel

Many candidates are not aware of the facts that every communication to the Human Resource division of the organization should be through proper channel. Proper Channel simply means that you have intimated through your controlling/reporting officer to the head of the division to the HR section of the organization, indicating “through proper channel” at the top of the letter. (E.g.- Chief Engineer ⇒Divisional GM ⇒ Divisional ED ⇒ GM (HR))

Technical Resignation

Technical Resignation simply means that you have applied through proper channel intimating at all the phases of the selection procedure.

Service Agreement Bond Transfer

Now-a-days, every organization like PSUs, BARC, DRDO etc., is following a trend of Service Agreement Bond. The bond mentions that you have to serve under that organization or Defence Services or Government of India for a particular period of time. If you have applied through proper channel, your bond gets transferred to the new organization clearly indication that you must complete the remaining period of the bond with the new organization. If you have applied through proper channel, it is the responsibility of your previous organization to communicate with the Concerned Ministry about your bond obligations and you need to sign the new bond with the new Organization for the remaining period of bond and it will be sent back to your earlier employer.

Intimation Stages

Many times it happens that candidates intimate only at the time of application only, but you must intimate the present employer at each phase like while application, while filling DAF and Interview and Finally resignation. While taking leave for appearing in exam, you should clearly mention that you are talking leave for appearing in Examination.

The aim of this article is to familiarize the peoples about the common mistakes that may create problem in your bright future and also aware the candidates about the procedure to be followed while applying for UPSC ESE or any other Examination.

For any query, please comment.

Thanks

Step by Step guide to IES interview


Interview
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Now that the result of written exam has been declared, most of you must be wondering about steps required to be taken till completion of interview stage. In this article, I will try to address your concerns as much as I can. So , this will be a step by step guide for personality test a.k.a interview.

  1. DAF- Detailed Application form

Show utmost care while filling this DAF online, there is no need to submit it in one day itself. Consult your peers while filing this form. Many coaching institute provide guidance for filling DAF ,so if possible you can also consult them.

In DAF, there are few grey areas such prizes, achievements, sports and hobby, etc. This section falls in the most important part of DAF because the first question will be from these things only. And what a tragedy could be ,if you start without answering first question and that too related to your hobby and achievements.  So, I will not suggest you what to fill there but I would like to say that fill only those contents which you will be able to defend there. It is not expected of you to have PhD in your hobby but still your knowledge should be enough make you look sincere in their eyes. Let me tell you that they are very good at catching lies, especially if you are not a confident speaker. Once they get that impression that you are speaking lie then your whole effort at further improvements will not make much impact on them. So, what you speak should be worth what you have written in your DAF. Therefore, fill DAF with utmost caution. Remember this rule, “the more you write, the more you increase their expectations from you”.

  1. Preparing HR and Current Affairs

Once you submit your DAF, then you become a prisoner of it. You should look at it daily; write down 5 random questions that come to your mind while looking at DAF. Let others have a look at DAF and allow them to ask questions. Diversity of opinion is required to get the best possible outcome. The most important questions are why you want to join IES, why you want to leave your current job?, how will you serve people in IES?, why do you want to join railways? Etc. IF you have read my previous articles, then you can frame your answers based on concepts elucidated there.

Current awareness is must for those who want to score high. It is not necessary that current topics will be asked but there are high chances of it being asked which may land you in trouble if you don’t prepare it. Answering current topics will not show that you are a brilliant candidate but it will save you from humiliation in front of board. Unlike IAS interview, the depth and analysis of current topics will be to the surface only, but more the knowledge the better it is. Some board chairman also asks puzzles, so better if you prepare for it.

  1. Preparing Technical Aspects

Apart from board chairman, there will be 4-5 technical experts of your subjects sitting there. These experts are either current or retired technocrats in Government of India. You will be relatively, if chairman is not from your technical background, as in that case he will ask only HR questions. After that you will be passed on to technical members for further grueling. Their main job is to check your technical knowledge of the stream in which you have qualified ESE. Apart from the core conventional knowledge which you studied for written exam, also prepare engineering applications of your subjects in practical life. Also be ready to go to some standard question available in the interview market, which if you don’t answer will reflect poorly on you. How to get these questions? These can be gathered from interview experiences of others and coaching material. In this segment never forget your core subjects and their concepts because they expect you to atleast that much. But the problem is , those who have fear of authority will most likely forget everything in front of interview board. They will have black-out. For solving this issue, training of mind is needed, do some yoga and meditation to overcome fear of authority.

In technical aspects, remember this rule “Either you know, or you don’t”. Don’t give your opinion in technical matters. It is not IAS interview where your opinion will matter. Either you say confidently or you don’t. But there is a way of telling them that you don’t know. Say that “I am not able to recall it now”. Learn these types of standard responses to get yourselves out of difficult situations.

  1. Mock Interviews

Give atleast 2 mock interview to asses your preparation. For mock session you can join coaching nearest to where you live. Or you can give it in Delhi also by taking leave from your current job but it not to be neglected.

Let me tell you honestly that mock conducted by coaching institutes will not give you feel of UPSC. You will find remarkable difference in those two. However, it necessary for your own analysis. You will come to know of the mistakes which you avoid later on. Like in my case, I used to keep my hands on table, I came to know it when pointed out at mock sessions. So, there are lots of personalities issues that you may be grappling with in your lives, don’t let it reflect there.  Basically, you will have confidence while facing real board, but if you don’t then be prepared for worst. Either you already have a great personality or you are confident that you score too high to bother about mock, then only take a risk otherwise mock sessions are must for everyone.

  1. Interview Day

It will be wither November of December when you will be at UPSC, so proper suit attire is expected of you. But not everybody has a suit to wear, in such a case I would say that go without suit but don’t wear sweaters. Attire is also a part of your personality for which you are being judged. Sit quietly in the common room. The more you discuss, the more anxious you will be. Keep a smile on your face while entering the room. For first 10min you will asked to wait outside the room which is going to be like a torture. But think something about else at this point, or you will become too nervous while taking your seat. Look around yourselves, be alert and attentive. Once you take your seat, half of your worry will be over. Learn the manners of sitting, walking, standing and speaking. These entire things can make a lot of difference apart from giving answers to them.

I hope I have given you quite clear picture of IES interview process. Wish you all the luck

Bonus Point- Your marks will only be decided by chairman of the board who is a UPSC member. Technical experts don’t have power to give marks but they can advise the chairman about performance of the candidates.

 

 

 

IES 2015 Interview Guidance


Greetings Everyone,

As you might have known by now that, IES 2015 written result has been declared. Congratulations to those who made it to the interview. Now the battle is really intense. You may have won the war but a slight injury in this battle can bring down your glory of victory. A slight mishap here will prove to be dissatisfaction for whole of the life. So, be ready for the next stage. You have almost two months to prepare and I will be helping you along this journey.

As a part of interview guidance programme, I will help you out in all aspects of interview preparations. I am in contact with many of my friends to get them to write something for you. Meanwhile I will also try to update you on HR and current affairs portion.

I have started a chat room on my blog for discussion related to interview. You can join chat room on the left hand side panel or https://tlk.io/ies2015interview also.

Some interivew related post on this blog.
1.https://myiesjourney.wordpress.com/2014/12/29/interview-experience-of-abhishek-saraf-air-6/

2.https://myiesjourney.wordpress.com/2014/12/12/how-to-fill-the-detailed-application-formdaf-for-ies-interview/

3.https://myiesjourney.wordpress.com/2014/10/31/declaration-to-signed-by-the-candidates-before-ies-interview/

4.https://myiesjourney.wordpress.com/2014/05/26/interview-day/

I will also like to receive feedback from you people about your demands and suggestions.

Thanks and prepare well.

Amit

How to Fill the Detailed Application Form(DAF) for IES interview


Congratulations!! to all those who have been selected in ESE written exam. You have successfully cleared  the first stage of examination, now you will be appearing for personality test. As most of you might have prepared for ESE written exam,in the similar way you can’t take this lightly and go for interview without preparation.
So the very first thing that all of you have to do is to fill detailed application form online on UPSC website. In this article, i am going to give you some suggestions about filling this form. When you appear for the interview, this is the form that board will have in front of them, most of the questions will originate from DAF.

As you now know that DAF needs to be filled with great care and sincerity, i am going to give you brief idea about how to frame general questions from DAF. I am restricting myself only to DAF for now.

Caution:- Please don’t fill false information in the form. You can leave it blank if you don’t have anything to fill but refrain from giving false information. This may have legal consequences other than disqualification.

1. Name:- You should know the meaning of your name and any resemblances with famous personality or place or thing. Basically you should know everything related with your name

2. Address:- Look out for any odd word in your address.

3. Domicile:- Must know the meaning of domicile. You will have to prepare a lot of information about your place of birth. Remember all the persons on the constitutional posts in your state. Also try to find out if there is any special thing about the place where you live. For example, Kashi me ulti ganga behti hai..meaning of this saying?

4. Date of Birth:- Look out for the resemblance of your dob to any famous date. Then prepare for the historical significance of the day. If it is one of our national holidays then get ready for it.

5. Community:- SC/ST/OBC , must know the meaning of these terms.

6. Employment status:- You must be thorough with your current and past employment working. You should be able to properly explain your job that you do/have done. Technical members  of board are more interested in your job experience. Generally, working people are not asked academic questions, they will have to face job related questions. One guy got 170 marks last year in interview, he was asked questions related only to cement  because he worked in cement related firm.

7. Name of father/mother:- Not much important but look for any resemblance to any famous personalities.

8. Father/Mother’s profession and salary:- You must be aware of the job which your father and mother do and salary they earn. Don’t write income disproportionate to profession.

9. Service preferences:- This is for you to decide but you must remember all your preferences in serial order. Fill this very carefully, find out all the information related to these services and also discuss with working people. This is going to change your life forever so take it seriously. Fill it in the last just before submitting when you have made your mind.

10. Prizes/medal/scholarship etc.:- Please provide only true information. Don’t mention trivial prizes such as getting certificate for playing kho-kho. Also prepare your achievement well, that why you got the prize. You must be able to show that you deserved it . It is not mandatory to fill this if you haven’t got any prizes.

11. Team/Games/sports:- All of us have played games in our childhood. Don’t mention that. You should have atleast reached upto district/zonal level. Then only it is worth mentioning.

12. Position of distinction/leadership:- Please don’t mention that you were class monitor at some point of time. This may annoy them and would diminish your performances. Mention only those positions where you have actually played some leadership roles.

13. Hobbies and interest:- This is also one of the most important area of DAF because the questions generally starts from this, most of the time. Hobbies can be as varied as star-gazing to coins collecting. Most of you are going to write hobbies that are very common but if your hobby is very different than others, then it may prompt board members to ask questions. At this point, if you satisfy board with your answers then all is well but if you falter then it may go wrong. Write hobbies which you can justify in front of them. For eg if your hobby is horse riding then it would be obvious that you know different breed of horses.

14. Declaration to signed:- I have already explained it in a separate post.
https://myiesjourney.wordpress.com/2014/10/31/declaration-to-signed-by-the-candidates-before-ies-interview/

 

Don’t make haste in submitting DAF, submit it before 2-3 days. Also don’t delay it upto end because a lot of thing can go wrong on the last day of submitting. After you have submitted it , make a habit to look DAF daily for half an hour and frame questions that come to your mind. Try to make questions as random as possible because this what happens during interview. There shouldn’t be any word in the DAF anywhere about which you are in dark. Generally, board chairman will have your complete DAF but other members will have only summary sheet before them. So, summary sheet should also be looked into. It contains brief summary of all important information in one page.

This was all about the DAF, I will try to come up with more articles for interview preparation. Till then ,goodbye.