Salary and Pay Comparison


Whenever you apply for any job, the very first and important question that comes in mind is “What will be the package /salary and allowances etc.?”

I have found many candidates always concerned with the salary and allowances they will get in different type of jobs like PSU, State Government, Central Government, R & D organizations, etc. So, I thought to share the pay structure of the PSU, State Government and Central Government jobs in India. I am not going to compare the nature of job, I am only going to tell you the pay structure and the initial salary you get in PSU, State Government and Central Government. I have considered the Pay Band-3 in CDA scale and Executive Grade IDA Scale in PSUs.

Central PSU (IDA Scale) State PSU (CDA Scale) Central Government (CDA Scale) State Government (CDA Scale) R & D Organization (BARC/DRDO etc.) (CDA Scale)
Basic Pay (INR) 16400 or 20600 or 24900 15600+5400 15600+5400 15600+5400 15600+5400
DA rate on 31st Dec. 2015 107.9 % 119 % 119 % 119 % 119 %
Cafeteria Allowance rate 46 to 51 % NIL NIL NIL NIL
HRA rate (depend on place of posting) 10 or 20 or 30 % 10 or 20 or 30 % 10 or 20 or 30 % 10 or 20 or 30 % 10 or 20 or 30 %
Lease Amount Approx. 16000-21000 May or May not be NIL NIL NIL
Conveyance/Transportation Allowance (depend on place of posting) Approx. 3000-5500 1600 or 3200 plus DA 1600 or 3200 plus DA 1600 or 3200 plus DA 1600 or 3200 plus DA
Telephone Reimbursement Approx. 500-1500 CUG System CUG System CUG System CUG System


General Formula for Salary Calculation

Gross = Basic * (100 + DA rate + Cafeteria rate + HRA rate)/100 + Conveyance Allowance

Deductions

The Various deductions in the salary may be under following heads:

              IDA Scale : EPF, LIC Scheme, Social Security, Income Tax etc.

              CDA Scale : NPS, CGHS, Professional Tax, Income Tax etc.

 

EPF Vs. NPS

EPF refers to Employee  Provident Fund which has generally fix annual rate of interest and is a compulsory instrument of Tax saving for the government organizations whereas NPS refers to New Pension Scheme, started 2004 onwards appointments to the Central Government Employees and Sate Government Employees. The NPS is also a compulsory instrument of Tax saving for the Government Employees governed by this scheme. The rate of return is variable (may be positive, negative or zero) in NPS because it is based on the market value of the funds invested in Equity.

 

CDA Scale Vs IDA Scale ?

CDA means Central Government Dearness Allowance while IDA means Industrial Dearness Allowance. CDA is applicable to the Central government, state government and state PSUs while IDA is applicable mostly to all the Central PSUs. The DA revision is half yearly in CDA whereas it is quarterly in IDA pattern. CDA and IDA are calculated based on the All India Consumer Price Index number/ Market rates/ Other Price Indices etc.

For Example:

IDA rate (%) CDA rate (%)
From 01 January, 2015 100.3 113
From 01 April, 2015 100.5 113
From 01 July, 2015 102.6 119
From 01 October, 2015 107.9 119

 

Disclaimer– Above article compares the pay and allowances as they exist as of now. When 7th pay commission report will be implemented , it will be updated in that context.

 

Proper Channel for PSU to UPSC


About Author 

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Author has worked with NHPC Ltd.(Central PSU) for more than 3 years and while working cleared UPSC ESE three times consecutively in 2012, 2013 and 2014. Author has received awards from the Chief Minister of UP twice for securing Merit Positions in High-School and Intermediate Examinations of UP Board and also honored by Department of Science/ UP for securing highest marks in Science in High-School Examination. Author also bagged the Silver Medal of the University in B. Tech. Author has a deep interest in Hindi Literature and also received the title of “Manas Mandal Sudharak” from Manas Samiti Kanpur.


 

I have found many candidates preparing for exams conducted by UPSC while working with PSU or Some other government organization. Some of the candidates are always concerned for the transfer of service agreement bond, technical resignation, proper channel and resignation procedure etc.

I have appeared in UPSC ESE consecutively three times starting from 2011 to 2014 along with working in NHPC Ltd. (Miniratna Company). I got selected with AIR-144, 073, 157 in ESE-2012, 2013 and 2014 respectively. Since I was working with a PSU, I always applied for the exam duly intimating my parent organization at each stage of the selection procedure. I have also found that many candidates do not intimate to their parent department while applying for any Competitive exams due to many reasons.

Let us understand the consequences if you will not intimate your parent organization:

  • Since UPSC does not ask for any experience certificate and No Objection Certificate for appearing in ESE, you can hide the fact without indicating in DAF (Detailed Application Form) and without intimating your current department, but it may cause trouble in future because these details will always be in record. Suppose you want to apply for any other post through Deputation, you cannot show your experience of previous job because you have not mentioned it in DAF while applying.
  • If while applying for UPSC ESE, you have not intimated to your current organization. You cannot give resignation indicating that you are going to join Some Central Govt. department allocated through UPSC ESE, but you have to give resignation on personal ground.
  • If you are under any Service Bond Obligation and your bond period is not completed in the current organization, you have to pay the currency of the bond and resignation must be on personal ground.
  • If your current organization is PSU, it must be having EPF (Employee Provident Fund) Scheme, and for State Government/Central Government the Scheme is NPS (New Pension Scheme). If you are coming from PSU, you have to withdraw the amount and If you are coming from State Government/Central Government department you can transfer your NPS account, without withdrawing your money, But for the transfer of account your resignation must be through proper channel.
  • If you are appointed through the ESE, you will get pay-protection and balance leave transferred, only if your earlier employer was a State Government/Central Government organization and resignation is through proper channel. In case of PSU, no provision of pay-protection is there.
  • In the rarest of the rare case, you may be in trouble if your current organization informs to UPSC that you have not applied through proper channel without intimating them. It may result into cancellation of candidature and a case may also be registered under Section-420 of IPC.

Proper Channel

Many candidates are not aware of the facts that every communication to the Human Resource division of the organization should be through proper channel. Proper Channel simply means that you have intimated through your controlling/reporting officer to the head of the division to the HR section of the organization, indicating “through proper channel” at the top of the letter. (E.g.- Chief Engineer ⇒Divisional GM ⇒ Divisional ED ⇒ GM (HR))

Technical Resignation

Technical Resignation simply means that you have applied through proper channel intimating at all the phases of the selection procedure.

Service Agreement Bond Transfer

Now-a-days, every organization like PSUs, BARC, DRDO etc., is following a trend of Service Agreement Bond. The bond mentions that you have to serve under that organization or Defence Services or Government of India for a particular period of time. If you have applied through proper channel, your bond gets transferred to the new organization clearly indication that you must complete the remaining period of the bond with the new organization. If you have applied through proper channel, it is the responsibility of your previous organization to communicate with the Concerned Ministry about your bond obligations and you need to sign the new bond with the new Organization for the remaining period of bond and it will be sent back to your earlier employer.

Intimation Stages

Many times it happens that candidates intimate only at the time of application only, but you must intimate the present employer at each phase like while application, while filling DAF and Interview and Finally resignation. While taking leave for appearing in exam, you should clearly mention that you are talking leave for appearing in Examination.

The aim of this article is to familiarize the peoples about the common mistakes that may create problem in your bright future and also aware the candidates about the procedure to be followed while applying for UPSC ESE or any other Examination.

For any query, please comment.

Thanks

My IES Journey by NISHEK JAIN


Hello Everyone

It is my constant endeavor to develop this blog as platform for all IES aspirants. I want to include as many diverse experiences of people as i can. In this article Nishek Jain shares his journey if becoming IES through mechanical engineering. I hope this article helps you in your preparation and overall guidance. He can be reached at nishek24@gmail.com


 

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My Choice:

In Engineering we do a lot of multiple choice questions (MCQs) and answers to many of them are found by eliminating the not so suitable options. It was a similar situation. I graduated in 2011 and got opportunity to work in core mechanical engineering company for 3 years. The job was ok but after almost 2 years the work started becoming redundant and I was not happy. So I started looking for other options. I could think of 4 options:

  1. Job Change
  2. MBA
  3. Civil Services
  4. Engineering Services

Job Change was eliminated because I did not really know how to do it. I applied at few job portals and at websites of some good companies but did not get any good interview calls. Also I could not find many good companies where my specific experience of 3 years could be used and I might not be treated as a fresher.

MBA was again eliminated because I gave CAT two times with my job but could not get 99+ percentile because of less preparation and somehow I did not want to spend more time for CAT preparation.

Civil Services, though seemed very lucrative career choice, was again eliminated because I knew that I was not at all good at writing big essays and theoretical questions.

Finally Engineering Services, 1st question was: “Can I clear this exam?” I did a lot of research. Found some friends who have already cleared this exam, discussed with them. Had a look at the previous year papers and was finally confident that if I prepare well I can clear this exam.

2nd question was: “Will it really provide a good career and a solution to my present problem?” Again after a lot of research, the answer was yes. Engineering Services (especially Railways) provides a very dynamic and challenging career. There is a huge impact of your work on society and nation building and it is one of the most coveted and respectable job for engineering graduates. So, Engineering Services it was.

 

My Preparation:

I left my job and took coaching at Made Easy. I wanted to give just one best try so I thought of not leaving any help or support which I could get and so I thought of taking coaching and it was very helpful.

As it had been a long time since college, so coaching helped in recalling all the concepts in a faster way. Also, periodic tests were helpful in judging the present level of preparation. Good competition in the coaching centre motivated me to study harder. So, coaching was very helpful in my case, but I would not say that it is essential.

If one is a final year student or a recent pass out (or anybody) who remembers the basic concepts and can revise them on his own, then self study can be sufficient.

 

Strategy for anybody:

For Technical Part:-

  1. Revise all the technical subjects studied in college (if you did) or join a coaching centre to help you do that.
  2. If you are joining a coaching centre then revise your Class Notes on the same day. Practice the questions suggested by teacher and make short notes.
  3. No need to purchase books if you don’t have any. You don’t have that much time to go through all the books. Notes of good coaching centers are sufficient which are available at photocopy shops outside coaching centers.
  4. Practice previous 10-15 years IES questions both objective and subjective yourself. Many questions get repeated exactly or at least the type of questions remains more or less same.
  5. Join a good All India Test Series and give all the tests seriously.

 

For English and General Studies (GS):-

English and GS are going to play very important role (atleast till ESE 2016), so this area needs special attention and this is the section which helped me a lot. I got 140 in this paper.. 🙂

For English:-

Vocabulary:

  1. “VoLT Vocabulary” App: It is a recently launched android app which is very good for fast and fun vocabulary learning. It is based on the book “VoLT- Vocabulary Learning Techniques” by Abhishek Jain which I used for Vocab preparation. But now there is app and it is free so you can go for that.
  2. Word Power Made Easy by Norman Lewis: Very good book for vocabulary improvement but a bit lengthy and time taking.

Grammar, Sentence Correction etc:

English Theory Book of Made Easy and Previous year questions of this section really help. Same mistakes are repeated many times.

For General Studies (GS):

GS section consists of 2 parts: Static and Dynamic. Static one i.e. Geography, Polity, Biology & History and Dynamic one i.e. Current Affairs. For the Static part notes of any good coaching institute may help but for Dynamic part I recommend notes of A.P. Singh Sir from Made Easy.

In short:

 Focus on technical concepts and practice more and more questions. Revise the class notes (or short notes) again and again. Previous 10-15 years questions and a good Test Series is must. For ESE-2016, General Studies and English are also equally important, so do focus on them if you are a serious aspirant and want to clear ESE 2016. From 2017 onwards, what happens to this part of the exam is yet to be seen.

 

My Interview:

My UPSC Interview went well (according to me) but my marks were not that good. I got 120 out of 200. I practiced for the interview with 3-4 mock interviews but the feel of the real UPSC interview was totally different from any of the mock interview. ESE interview this time was mostly technical, no current affairs etc. Technical questions included many questions related to job experience, some basic concept based questions and few advanced application based questions. I could answer almost 50-60% of the total technical questions but my confidence level was good.

 

Tips for Interview:

As mentioned above, ESE 2015 interview was mostly technical. Also, as per at the new pattern of ESE which is to be implemented from 2017, major portion of the General Studies like History, Geography, Polity etc. is removed from syllabus. So it is my prediction that ESE interviews in future are going to be more and more technical. So I would like to share following tips:

  • Revise all the technical concepts thoroughly before the interview.
  • If you have worked for a significant amount of time, prepare about your job profile, your significant contribution, recent developments in your area of work etc.

Note: Your English speaking skills play very less role in ESE interview. You just need to know the right answer and should be able to convey it to them.

 

General (But very helpful) Tips:

In such long preparation duration, feeling low sometimes is a part of the game and it happens with everybody. So whenever such phase comes, you should not get too much tensed or depressed, you should just take some time off the studies and try to do something to cheer yourself up. Watching a movie, hanging out with friends for some time, eating some good food outside may help.

For achieving a big target, a dose of motivation is also very much required time to time. Motivational posters, videos, computer wallpapers etc. are really helpful. My favorite motivational quote is this one by Swami Vivekananda, “Arise, Awake and Stop not till the goal is reached”.

 

Thanks

Life In a Psu-A comparative analysis


Welcome Readers,
This following post is the first installment of article written by Ayush Srivastava in which he explains his prior working in IOCL and his subsequent joining in railways. He can be reached at nitbayush75@gmail.com


 

Ayush
Hello Folks!!!

This is Ayush Srivastava, IRSE Probationer, 2013-exam batch. I find pleasure in introducing myself, briefly as follows:

Graduation: B Tech (Civil) from Maulana Azad National Institute of Technology, Bhopal.

Graduating year: 2013           Graduating GGPA: 9.41/10.00            PG: None

GATE-2013 AIR: 84                Engineering Services Exam-2013 AIR: 23

Campus Selection: IOCL          GATE Recruitment: IOCL

So I need not tell again that prior to joining the Indian Railways Service of Engineers, I was working with Indian Oil Corporation Ltd., a public sector undertaking, under the Government of India. I was in line for the preparation of ESE since the beginning of my pre-final year, and so I won’t be much of a help in case you ask me WHAT TO DO and WHAT NOT in, say 3 or 4 months, prior to ESE for clearing the same. Seeing the whole lot of time I took in securing a “meh” rank like 23 in an exam like ESE, you are absolutely right with your conclusion that I was (and am) more of an average student requiring a lot of toil to move meager distances and keep things in my small head. But I am not here to talk about myself, but to share something which might help some of you, even though I am not sure of that.

So, after persistent hammering for 2 months, by my very good friend and a great blogger, Amit Singh, I finally present here, solely from my personal experiences, some scribbling related to stuff like:

  1. Life in a PSU
  2. ESE departments and a PSU like IOCL, NTPC and ONGC: An attempt of comparison.

LIFE IN A PSU:

I was selected in IOCL through campus as well as GATE score shortlisting. I joined IOCL on 22.07.2013 and worked there till 30.11.2014. I was working as Project Engineer in the Pipelines Division of IOCL at Allahabad and was involved in the shifting of Barauni-Kanpur underground oil pipeline. I am mentioning about my job profile at IOCL, here, to make you feel the nature of work that I was into. It was the best that IOCL could have offered to a civil engineer. Some major TECHNICAL issues which I looked after were construction of small buildings, preparation of petty estimates, concreting at field, route survey for pipeline and studying soil test reports. Besides these, I had to do a lot of letter drafting.

So what I gathered from my tenure of 16 months in IOCL can be summarized as:

  • You are related to what you have studied in your engineering, between 0%-10%, while you are on job in a PSU. This applies to some of the companies only viz. IOCL, ONGC, NTPC, SAIL and GAIL and that too for civil engineers specifically. I am not talking about core civil PSUs like RITES, NHPC and the like, as I bear no experience of these. Now this may become a point of work dissatisfaction for many (it was for me…I am not sure of others) as to be doing something completely not of your prime interest.
  • In a PSU, or I should say at my office at IOCL, apart from an engineer, I was an unsung stenographer who gathered the material for a letter, the typist who typed it, the incognito peon who carried the draft to the boss for approval, again the typist who corrected it if required, the office boy who dispatched the letter and the neat engineer who then dealt with the party to whom the letter was addressed, regarding the issues therein.

In a nutshell, it was something completely away from involving my authority and decision making. This again made me introspect sometimes, that what am I doing?

  • BUT!!!!!!…. There was this thing called money. Entry basic salary in a PSU is Rs.24900/-. There are a lot of perks apart from salary and a number of loans on meager interest offered by PSUs to the employees. Believe me, you earn a good decent living in a maharatna PSU.

ESE departments  and a Maharatna PSU: An attempt of comparison:

Now this is something big that I have tried. Please see to it that all the views herein are purely personal and based on my short stay at a PSU and even shorter stay at Indian Railways. Neither I intend to challenge or correct anyone, nor do I mean to offend anyone. This is just what I feel, and if at all it could be of any help to any of you.

  1. You are more involved with the CIVIL engineering you studied in your college in a department like Indian Railways or CPWD, when compared to working in a PSU like IOCL, ONGC, SAIL, NTPC.

 

  1. You enjoy more authority when you are in an ESE department at the entry level, as against that in a PSU. If I talk of railways, you have a substantial workforce to control and you are to extract the maximum potential of your subordinates under limited conditions, with 100% correctness of the technical aspect of the work.

 

  1. Your decision making and responsibility sharing is manifold in an ESE department. Particularly in railways a civil engineer is directly related to safety of passengers and so you are to take decisions for your jurisdiction length of track for which you are single-handedly responsible.

 

  1. Talking of the technical exposures, you will be actually building stuff like bridges and tunnels, and your work won’t be limited to checking concreting in the field. Some of these projects might of national importance like the bridge at Bogibeel which connects Arunachal and upper Assam to rest of India or a bridge over Chenab in J&K., which will definitely instill a pride in you.

 

  1. Ohh!!! How could I miss this??…..You shall be a Gazetted officer in an ESE department and will enjoy the social status associated with it (if any). Moreover, on a lighter note, now you will be authorized to attest the photocopies of the documents of all the students in your neighborhood and the whole area will be living in the (mis)belief that you can get their tickets confirmed anytime from anywhere to anywhere, in case you join railways.

 

  1. Yes…I now you are dying to know that….but as far as railways is concerned…..you will get a house with substantial space, a few good men to look after it and an office vehicle with a driver. I am not aware of the other ESE departments, but I want you to know that I was not provided with a vehicle when I was in IOCL, nor the house allotted to me there, was in a habitable condition.

 

  1. The cash in hand you get is always better in a Maharatna PSU, as compared to an ESE department. The difference can be as much as Rs 15000/-. Besides the prevailing rate of Daily Allowance (not the Dearness allowance, i.e. DA) is Rs 1150/- in IOCL, while the same is Rs 600/-in railways. You are one of the highly paid sections of Indian Working class (apart from the private corporates) with a highly stable job if you are in a Maharatna.

Now, since I have blabbered a lot of points of comparison on the subject, let me once again tell you that all the above are subjective and my personal perspective. I have heard people being very much satisfied with their jobs in IOCL, NTPC and the like and also there are people who complain of joining some of the ESE departments like MES, CWC and BRO after leaving a job in a PSU. So there are views of all types. What matters is what you want and so what you decide to achieve it.

So, now in a nutshell for civil engineering aspirants!!!!!!!! (again my personal views)……..

  1. If you get a department like Indian Railways or CPWD, then join it, no matter wherever you are working currently, unless point no. 3 is applicable to you.

 

  1. If you get a department like IOFs or CWC, and you wish to prepare for civil services in future, join it.

 

  1. If you have worked in a MAHARATNA for 3 or more years, then I think you should NOT consider joining any ESE department, unless point no. 2 is applicable to you. This is because you will be losing a lot of pay-scale, promotions of your parent PSU and moreover seniority for promotions in a department like railways, largely depends on your age. Lesser the age, better chances of promotions in the long run. So if you feel that you have crossed the bar of 26 years before coming to Indian Railways, then you may not be a “Horse for the long run” in railways (I can say of railways only).

 

  1. If your ultimate aim is IAS, and you are not getting preparation time in your current PSU, neither you want to sit home, then you may consider joining CPWD or IOFs or CWC through ESE, and never ever consider joining railways.

 

  1. If none of the points 1 to 4 apply to you, are you a hell lot of dissatisfied with your job in your current PSU, you are highly engaged in non-technical works which you feel are not your cup of tea and you may get retarded if you continue the same (just kidding!!!!), then just study hard, write off the damn ESE and come join any department of your like, YOU ARE WELCOME!!!!!!

Thanks
Ayush Srivastava
IRSE(P)-2013

 


 

 

Brief Particulars about Central Engineering Service(Roads)


In this post ,we will discuss some brief details about Central Engineering Service(Roads).

By
Kusum Ghangas
Assistant Executive Engineer (Civil Engineering)
Ministry of Road Transport & Highways, New Delhi

Overview of MORTH

Responsibility vested to the Ministry of Road Transport & Highways (MORTH) by the Govt. of India is the formulation & administration of policies for road transport, National Highways & transport research with a view to increase the mobility & efficiency of the road transport system in the country. Apart from Ministry Headquarters at New Delhi, there are about (not an exact figure) 24 ROs (Regional Offices), ELOs (Engineer Liaison Office) & PIUs (Project Implementation Unit).

There are 3 wings of MORTH – Roads, Transport & Shipping. Roads wing deals with the planning & development of new NHs (Greenfield projects), Maintenance & up gradation of existing NHs & preparing specifications for roads & bridge works. Execution of such projects is done through the State PWD & NHAI.

Scope of Work for AEEs

As a part of the CES (Roads) cadre of the Roads wing of MORTH, newly recruited AEEs posted at the Headquarters are involved in planning & monitoring of the new & on going NH projects in the country, respectively & scrutiny of proposals for road/bridge works received from states. Those posted at PIUs are directly involved in the execution of projects right from Land Acquisition to completion. ROs & ELOs of the ministry work as a bridge between the Headquarter & State PWD for better coordination among the two in respect of project implementation.

Apart from above, interested AEEs can also go to NHAI on deputation after completion of probation period of 2 years.

To improve the quality of delivery of service in which we are lagging behind due to various known reasons, Ministry has been taking up research works on emerging topics on roads sector through CRRI (Central Road Research Institute) and existing standards and Codes (IRC) are being continuously improved with inputs from active and young engineers.

 CENTRAL  ENGINEERING  SERVICE  (ROADS),GROUP  ‘A’ (1) Probation- The  selected  candidates  will  be  appointed  as Assistant Executive Engineer on probation for two years. On the completion of the period of probation, if  they  are  considered  fit  for  permanent appointments, they will be confirmed as Assistant Executive  Engineer  if  permanent  vacancies  are available. The Government may extend the period of probation of two years. If on the expiration of the period of probation or of any extension thereof, Government are of the opinion that an Assistant Executive Engineer is not fit for permanent employment or if at any time during such period of probation or extension they are satisfied that an Assistant Executive Engineer will not be fit for permanent appointment on the expiration of such periods of extension, they may discharge the Assistant  Executive  Engineer  or  pass  such  orders  as they think fit. (2)Defence Service Liability:-Any  person  appointed  on  the  results  of  this competitive examination shall if so required, be liable  to  serve  in  any  Defence  Service  or  post connected with the Defence of India for a period of not less than four years including the period spent on training, if any. Provided that such person— (i) shall not be required to serve as aforesaid after the  expiry  of  ten  years  from  the  date  of appointment. (ii) shall  not  ordinarily  be  required  to  serve  as aforesaid after attaining the age of forty years. (3)Pay Scales:- The following are the scales of pay admissible :

Designation pay band
Chief Engineer   Pay Band-4 :Rs. 37400-67000 [GP – Rs.10000]
 Superintending Engineer  Pay Band-4 : Rs. 37400-67000 [GP – Rs.8700]
Executive Engineer Pay Band-3 : Rs. 15600-39100 [GP – Rs.6600]
Assistant Executive Engineer Pay Band-3 : Rs. 15600-39100 [GP – Rs.5400]

Note :—The pay of Government servant who held a permanent  post  other  than  a  tenure  post  in  substantive capacity  prior  to  his  appointment  as  a  probation  in  the Central Engineering Services, Group ‘A’ Group ‘B’ will regulated subject to the provision of  F.R.-22 B(1). (4)Nature of Duties:-Nature of duties and responsibilities attached to the post in Central Engineering Service (Roads)Group ‘A’. (i) Civil Engineering Posts :— To assist the Senior Technical Officers at Hqrs. and in the Regional Offices etc. of the Roads Wing, Ministry of Surface  Transport  in  planning,  preparing  designs  and estimates of roads/bridges work and scrutiny of proposals for such work received from the States. (ii)Mechanical Engineering Posts :— To assist the Senior Technical Officers Hqrs. and in the Regional Offices etc. of the Roads Wing, Ministry of Surface Transport in planning, procurement, operation and maintenance of roads/bridges construction equipments, to prepare  estimates  for  repairs  and  maintenance  of  such equipments  and  scrutiny  of  proposals  and  estimates received from the States.

Poll between PSU and IES


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I have seen that people are confused between PSU and IES most of the time. Those who are already in PSUs face this dilemma even more. So, In this post well do a poll so as to judge that balance lies on which side. Before that ,let’s take a case study. I got this question from a reader of my blog.

Hi…I just want to discuss my confusions about PSU and IES.right now m working in IOCL(Indian Oil corporation ltd.) and preparing for IES-2015. I need your guidance in this regards.
Since I joined in 2013 its been almost an year working here…and as discussed on quora blog I got a deep insight and difference btw psu and ies working area…i m quite aware of the things as discussed by u..but what I want to point out is that there is some kind of politics which happens in psu’s and we have to juss” logo Ki ……… padti h…”…i juss want independence…and work is not that much…the work we r doing is same as done by dypty manager level officers…but its not amusing working here…people play politics…with each other…to show others low in front of boss…(boss is 1 for all) at my station…now regarding salary…right now my basic is 24900-50500 and I m getting around 58000(including HRA+scooter allowance+provident fund)…now plz tells me…the working conditions in IES…(railways or common)…salary with starting pay scale.(since money matters a lot)…promotions period…and max. Tenure at any posting/location…is there any politics there??…plz help me out…

In a conclusion…we must have some kind of support…or source if we want quick promotions…or hold transfers…moreover transfers happen after every 4/5 years(if there is no source)…all above management is poor…innocent people cant survive…here…

So wt is promotion and transfer rate there in IES…???wts the criteria…plz tell me briefly…
Kamal

Now ,after going through his problem we should discuss this so as to gain some insight for our own decision making.We have already discussed about facilities and life of an IES officer. However, his main problem seems to be the politics played in his office. Let me tell you that , politics is the way humans interact with each other. We can’t expect out fellow worker to be nice and sympathetic to our cause. This world is a cruel place to live in , and its nice that we simply play politics not resort to violence. So, wherever you go , politics will follow, whether it is in IES or PSU.  If you want to be completely free of these things then take a job in MNC as these people play less politics and only do their assigned job. In government jobs, a kind of sycophantic behavior is observed because those who don’t want to do their work get appraisal  in this manner.  So in this situation , Kamal is caught between a rock and a hard place.These type of decisions are most difficult to take because they can either make or break your happy life.

Now, what do you think about the choice between IES and PSU? Vote in the poll below.

Is it right to leave PSU and go for IES


Ganesh Pal asks this question
“I have gone through your blog and i like it…and i have got your mail id 4m there..

i have some confusion in my mind regarding IES Preparation…presently m working in NTPC 4m last 3 yrs. nd i hd done coaching in made easy of IES Preparation.   from dat tym i m very keen to be in IES but due to some circumstances  i hadn’t go through….now m in state of confusion due to some reason as my age is 30 yrs nd here i gt good package …but my posting is in worst plant of NTPC ie in Assam…
Please suggest me that at dis age or in dis package is it is right to prepare for IES-2015. ….i have well prepared notes of mine…my branch is mechanical….my college was NIT Allahabad…2009 pass-out…”

So

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Is it right to leave PSU and go for IES after significant years of service in PSUs?
This is a question which has no pet answer only a discussion is possible. So here we are…

These are the few points which we are going to consider while we analyze the situation.

1. When you leave, at that time, you cannot expect the facilities offered by PSU and by an IES service (lets assume railways) will be at par. It can’t be same as you will be entering at junior grade (JG) level, your salary will be less, maybe only 40% of what you are getting from PSU after 7-8 years of service.
Also you might have settled in life and your expenses will be huge than a college freshers, you might be having kids..
These things you have to ask yourself. Can you manage your life in-spite of this drastic change in your professional life.

2. What are your job quality expectations? Are you not satisfied by the quality of work or is it the place of posting that bothers you?
Well if its the quality of work then Engineering services offers you a wide variety of work (like railways, CWS, Roads).
There is a work for every engineer and that to of his/her core branch.
If its because of the place of posting then there is not much respite as the service is of all India level you cannot expect to get your favorite place.

3. I have met a lot of people who has transitioned from PSUs to IES (Specially Railways). Some of them (only few actually) have opted it at the age of 30 something and from PSUs like IOCL etc. One thing for sure is the early you enter in this service the more is scope as the promotion is more or less time bound. So you cant expect to get the top positions.

4. Two versions:
If you ask to a higher officer maybe (SAG) that you have opted IES at the age of about 30 and that too leaving a shining PSU, his first reaction would be “WHY?, aisa kya dikha railways mein, yaha Promotions are slow…re-numeration is not attractive if you compare with PSUs..workload is much (well its everywhere) “.
So for them its not a right decision. But they are mostly people who doesn’t have any experience in PSUs.

And if you ask someone who has switched PSU, He would say ” workload was too much, odd duty hours, far away posting places” these type of things and also one most heard sentence “Class 1 officer ki baat hi kuch aur hai” (I do not certainly agree with it) . Well, Grass is always greener on the other side of court. Well i say, Yes its greener but only a few shades…

PS: I hope this help you in someway to makeup your mind and decide judiciously.

Regards,
Ravinder Singh
(IRSE 2012 Batch)

Preparation without coaching


There are lots of students who can’t join coaching for IES because of various reasons. These students should not feel left out of race for IES.
It is possible to prepare for IES without coaching also , if you have made up your mind.

There are certain disadvantages if you don’t have proper guidance. You don’t know the syllabus , books to study, materials to refer, and how to manage time . To avoid all this, you should start your preparations very early , if possible from the college time itself.

Now there are certain things to do very seriously if you are going to prepare on your own.

1. Make your own notes
Making notes of each and every topic is very important. It is must, you have to do it. Just studying from books is not enough. Purchase classroom notes of any good coaching institute from photocopy shop near these coaching institutes , they are easily available. If you don’t live in Delhi,  make extra effort and get it arranged somehow. They are your core reference material. Use this as a guide to study and, study the chapters from standard text books.  Now make your own notes , very elaborately,  don’t just copy, make it unique. This will take effort but once you have made your own notes , it will be an asset forever. You can also get postal study material of coaching institute . But use this as a reference only , study from good text books of your subjects for understanding the topics

2. Solve previous years question papers
This is another very much important thing to do for preparation. When you finish any topic, look at previous year question to gauge the extent
Of Your preparation. Don’t leave previous years question for the last moment. Solve it side by side. If you want to do more , then go for IAS mains question papers of your respective subject of last 15 years.  It would be more than sufficient.  You can get these materials in Delhi. So make a visit once , and arrange all that you need.  In delhi , places near coaching centre such as Saket, Hauz Khas,  Ber sarai…..have all the latest material for preparation.

3. Join test series
Please join any good online test series for preparation at the last moment.  Do it seriously throughout. If you are getting good ranks in Madeeasy all India test series then it means you have very high chance of cleaning IES. Most of the people ignore test series just because they fear their performance, but face your failures. There are two ways to join the test series i.e online and offline.  For IES offline test series are good but if it is not possible for you , then join online test series. Once the test series are over , make a quick revision of the questions that you couldn’t solve.

4.Make a diary of mistakes.
Keep records of the the mistakes that you have made in separate diary. Write down what went wrong when u solved the problem, your self criticism and future strategy. We tend to forget our mistakes and repeat again . This is the worst thing to do, I.e repeat your mistakes.  Never repeat your mistakes. If you always make new mistakes, then you are on right path. One day will come , when you will not make any mistakes.

This was for the technical preparation, for general ability I have written a separate blog, which you can check.

Best of luck to all.

Hand written notes are available at places in South Delhi near Made easy centres. You can purchase whole set in one payment. It varies around rs1500-2000
1. Saket
2. Hauz khas
3. Ber Sarai.

I am giving phone no of Hind Photostat
1. Lado sarai – 8130782342
2. Ber Sarai – 9560163471
3. Ignou road ,Saket – 9654353111

IES Subjective Preparation


Subjective papers in IES are most dreaded things to encounter. This paper is like a test match,  you have to stay at crease…. You have to face most difficult thing on the last day of exam when you are totally worn out. Some students become so hopeless that they don’t appear in this paper. Most of the students have this perception that subjective paper marks are uncertain and erratic. This may be true to some extent but if you do a question correctly then you will get full marks but if there are some mistakes then it is upto examimer to consider your marks. The most important thing is to make up your mind that you are willing to attempt the question with sincerity , not just attempt just for sake of it.  Some say that if you attempt around 300 marks you may get upto 150 marks out of 400. This is a trap , don’t fall for this. I have seen many people attempting over 300 and not getting even 100 marks. This is not your college exam where filling pages will fetch you marks. We all do this in our college but leave this habit at the beginning itself. No of pages don’t give you marks. Write neatly, don’t overemphasize anything.

The syllabus is divided in two parts ..part 1 and part 2 corresponding to paper 1 and paper 2. You should know this detail about your subjects i.e how the paper is divided and no of marks alloted to each section. When you study any topic make sure that you can answer almost anything from that topic. Solve numerical related to that topic in time bound manmer. Subjective paper require intensive study approach , you must be clear with the concept otherwise you will not be able to solve any variation in the question.

Some students prepare selectively thinking that  skipping some topics will not make much difference. So let me tell you that,  UPSC can design question paper in such a way that a single question may contain sub parts from different topic,  therefore your expectations may not convert into reality. The best thing is to prepare for all the topics , only this strategy can save you in case of emergency. If you know all the topics then you can choose selectively which 5 questions out of 8 you will be able to score good marks.

The practice for subjective exam must be done in writing,  it can’t be oral preparation. You should know your weakness and try to remove them. A man must also known his strength and use them . You will come to know it only if you practice on the paper. Keep all your practice notebook with you,  don’t throw them away. Keep all your question paper at one place. Also make a diary where you write your plan of revision and then follow it up. Make habit of writing daily the mistakes you have committed in that diary. Look back at it after few days , and mark your improvement. Self scrutiny is very much important, you become more conscious of yourself.

With these suggestions,  I close here . If you want to say anything , leave it in comments.

Thank you
Best of luck to all

IES vs PSU vs MNC


I am posting this article just for your information. Some portions of the answer have been taken from internet

Q-How is life of an IES officer compared to doing a job in MNC ? What all opportunities can one get?
Ans- In MNC , life is boring and mechanical. In IES life is happening and wonderful. I cann’t  even think of sitting like  robot in front of workstation and doing the same repetitive work again and again. Let me give you a famous example to illustrate my point about how i felt when i was in MNC.

Sisyphus punishment representing absurdity
Sisyphus punishment representing absurdity

There was a man in ancient Greek. He had been condemned to roll a boulder up to a mountain slope and then release it. The boulder would fall down the slope immediately. He had to again pick it up and repeat the same process. This punishment is cruel than death, because it is the perfect example of absurd life one can live. It doesn’t have any meaning. I didn’t want to be like Sisyphus, this life of MNC job would have been the same punishment as meted out to Sisyphus had i stayed there. We are fully humans only if we create something, not just repeat everything. Boredom and absurdity are greater enemies of mankind than Death. I have worked in a Korean MNC for 9 months and I knew that i would be falling into Sisyphean nightmare if i don’t clear  IES
U dont compare Engineering Services with a MNC, In Engineering services u get to serve India. U get to shape India directly. If u only think of money, then u should not be here (We don’t want any more corruption in India). It’s probably the best job in India for an Engineer, u will be paid high enough to lead a happy life. Send your kids to the best school in town, Get u a good home, 4 square meals a day, enough salary to allow u to visit some of the best places in the world.  And of course a lot of respect. E.g Metro man , E Sreedharan

Q-How is IES  officer job in respect to psu in India

Ans-First of all, i want to tell you its really worth the hard work.

Indian Engineering Services is a purely Central Government job and you get Central Government pay scales.

In India, Public Sector Undertaking (PSU) is a term used for a government-owned corporation. The term is used to refer to companies in which the government (either the Union Government or state or territorial governments, or both) owned a majority (51 percent or more) of the company equity.

While you hear that the salaries are lower in comparison to PSUs, it is not always true. As the PSUs enjoy autonomy, the better performing PSUs pay better ( Maharatna or Navratna PSU), then comes the Miniratna ( Category A and B) and then the not so well known and loss making PSUs. Your salary and pay scale completely depends upon the performance of the company you are in.

IES is prestigious because one gets powerful posts and positions where his chair holds responsibilities, that only he has to undertake. But to the contrary, in a PSU a system works, be it (good or bad) and there is a fixed role and you become a part of it. There isn’t much to do in a PSU, because there is a ready-made system for that. Individual contributions or efforts goes unnoticed.

Also if you have apprehensions regarding the career progressions of an IES officer, here is a list which can definitely inspire you to go for IES.
At the time of selection – Assistant Executive Engineer / Assistant Works Manager / Assistant Director.
after 3–4 years of service (including probation period) – Executive Engineer / Works Manager / Deputy Director (equivalent to Under Secretary to Government of India).
after 8 years of service – Superintending Engineer / Deputy General Manager / Joint Director (equivalent to Deputy Secretary to Government of India).
after 13 years of service – Chief Engineer level-2 / Joint General Manager (equivalent to Director to Government of India).
after 20 years of service – Chief Engineer / Additional General Manager (equivalent to Joint Secretary to Government of India).
after 30 years of service – Engineer-in-Chief / Senior General Manager (equivalent to Additional Secretary to Government of India).
after 34 years of service – Chairman / Director General / Managing Director (equivalent to Secretary to Government of India).
Promotions are subjected to availability of vacancies and may take more time than mentioned above.